Militarily Speaking Ep. 44 Honor The Brave: A Conversation with Zanna Wolfgang

“Militarily Speaking” is a podcast produced by Armed Forces Bank that is dedicated to the military lifestyle and all the things that makes military community who they are.

We — with guests like you — will help the military community not only navigate their finances but also military life. We chat about both good and bad financial practices and provide some insight along the way. We’ll share strategies to help people get ahead, discuss military benefits that members should take advantage of, and more – all working towards the goal of helping people become more financially independent.

On the show, we’ll also preview and talk about how to take advantage of military specific services, such as loans and mortgages, and help members prepare for important milestones such as PCS moves and the transition to civilian life. Finally, at the end of every episode, we have a bit of fun with our Military Minute. That guessing-game segment features military history, hobbies, a bit of pop culture. Correct guesses by listeners could result in a donation to charity of individual’s choice.

Welcome to the "Militarily Speaking" podcast with Tom McLean and Jodi Vickery.

In this episode of “Militarily Speaking,” Tom, Jodi, and guest Zanna Wolfgang, Honor The Brave co-founder, discuss how the veteran support program helps military and first responder families navigate the real estate market, and how she created a 'funny farm' with a collection of animals that brings joy and therapeutic benefits.

“Militarily Speaking” is a podcast produced by Armed Forces Bank that is dedicated to the military lifestyle and all the things that makes military community who they are.


Ep. 44 – Honor The Brave: A Conversation with Zanna Wolfgang

 As the conversation flowed, Zanna unfolded her inspiring story behind co-founding "Honor The Brave," a real estate benefit program that assists veterans and first responders. Having experienced the struggles of life after service, Zanna and her husband, Jeff, saw it as their calling to help their community. The program provides "Brave Benefits" to qualified candidates, a fitting cause that goes beyond just property transactions to create meaningful relationships.


Discovering the Funny Farm

 The interview shifted toward Zanna’s personal life away from her professional commitments, disclosing an intriguing aspect of her lifestyle at her “funny farm”. Housing a joyously varied mix of animals from alpacas to kunekune pigs, Zanna’s funny farm is based on a wellspring of love and shenanigans. Every day, she draws inspiration from these interactions, producing a steady flow of good vibes and positivity that finds its way into her work.


Getting to Know Zanna Through Victim, Survivor, Thriver Podcast

 Zanna's empowering journey also charts her experience hosting the Victim, Survivor, Thriver podcast. This platform allows her to connect with individuals facing adversities and inspire them with stories of strength and determination. Aiming to guide others from being victims to becoming thrivers, Zanna brings hope, painting every situation with a positive outlook, indicating her unwavering dedication to uplifting lives.


Merchandising for a Cause: Supporting the Brave

 Through the success of "Honor The Brave" and her increased influence, Zanna introduced merchandise filled with love and shenanigans from Thrive Farm Co. These proceeds go back to the very community she serves, reminding us that our actions in commerce can reflect our values in life.


Leaving a Ripple Effect

 By infusing her professional life with personal beliefs, Zanna redefines what it means to work with purpose. As she passionately dedicates to causes close to her heart, her positive influence and warm energy radiate in all directions. As a beacon of positivity and hope, she exemplifies that it's not only about what we do but also why and how we do it. Zanna’s story truly stands testament to the fact that our profession can echo our purpose, leaving a ripple effect that changes many lives positively.


Military Minute

Jodi introduces the Military Minute segment of the show, beginning by closing out last episode’s Military Minute.

  • Last episode’s Military Minute: Which former U.S. President was elected to the Golf Hall of Fame in 2011? What was the original name of the Kansas City Chiefs?
  • Answer: George H.W. Bush and the Dallas Texans
  • This week’s Military Minute question: What defense mechanism do alpacas employ when they are threatened or feel the need to assert dominance within the herd?
  • Watch for Facebook and Instagram posts about this episode.
  • Answer with the correct answer and you plus a charity of your choice can each win $50.
  • After a winning selection, Military Minute participants are eligible for another selection after 12 months.


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 Join us to hear how to better navigate your finances, military life, and the crossroads of the two.